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Meeting
7 - 14th December 2000
1.0 General
1.1 The chair - Sally Thompson - explained that the meeting was arranged
to discuss aspects of mounting the exhibition. Sally rejigged the agenda.
She wanted to stress the need for people's commitment in a new agenda
item "process" or "how we get things done"!
1.2 Tom Haynes asked who exhibition is for and the reasons for it. Tom
Young said it's not about precise marketing. RKT proceeds on the basis
that the exhib is of general interest.
1.3 Other responses were also given by Sally and Chris Philips, the main
thrust being the development potential of the railway lands known as the
Murphy site.
1.4 Paul Gannon, answering Steven Evans query whether the planned RKT
exhibition was a response to a particular development, agreed with Sally
and Chris' perspective, emphasising the huge land-value that Murphy's
are "sitting on".
1.5 Chris stressed Camden's failure to deal with the issue of KT's future.
1.6 Sally suggested the exhibition would not be exhaustive focus on KT's
environment
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2.0 Content
2.1 The Past
2.11 All felt there may be a glut of material dealing with KT's past.
Chris thought the trick would be to keep the quantity of this material
down so as not to obscure the other themes of the exhibition eg the present
and future 2.12 A brief discussion ensued about the past's capacity to
surprise us. Paul and Tom felt the core issue of KT's future could not
be approached without consideration of the past.
2.13 The need to edit material dealing with the past was agreed. It was
felt that material provided by the group as "background" should focus
on key events in KT's past eg the railways, industrial decline, comprehensive
redevelopment, architectural change etc.
2.14 Another perspective on material relating to KT's history is that
dealing with how the area might have been developed. The example of Queens
Crescent's truncation by the railways was adduced as an example.
2.2 The Present
2.21 Sally discussed key statistics. KT's current population (30,000)
was discussed. Sally would like to know a British town with the same population.
Steven suggested Totnes.
2.22 KT's population stats are affected by poll-tax evasion, but overall
it's declining.
2.23 The stats will cover households, children per household, age-split,
racial mix. A surprising stat is the low number of households with children
(around 25%).
2.24 London Planning Advisory Committee's survey of London town centres
was referred to. It has info about journeys to centres by foot/bus/car
and missing amenities
2.25 Andrew said how familiar places can be re-presented through photography.
He referred to shops and shopping as a topic susceptible to this approach.
He also suggested how The Assembly House might be re-presented as a community
centre, and discussed Blustons which receives busloads of visitors! Sally
suggested that Andrew deal with shopping in an exhibition contribution
since it is a major issue for Kentish Town.
2.26 Richard T demonstrated the different look of current OS maps of different
scales. He also showed the boundaries of the postal district NW5 overlaid
on the ward boundaries. The discrepancy between the perceived KT boundaries
and political/postal ones is interesting.
2.3 The Future
2.31 Sally said the future of the area is what the exhibition is about.
2.31 The Future breaks into two: the official future and the possible
future. 2.32 Andrew said one future exhibit should show how bad "it" could
be. Worst case scenarios would make excellent exhibits.
2.33 All agreed that we need to get sufficent exhibits dealing with the
future.
2.4 In General
2.41 Paul suggested that the exhib themes will be entwined and hard to
separate out.
2.42 All agreed the exhib must be memorable - "a bit different". We discussed
how to structure the exhib so that magnet exhibits pull visitors past
other less prominent items.
2.43 Some ordinary interactivity through a comments book or questionaire
was agreed.
2.44 Video and audio content will be welcomed.
2.45 Paul warned we don't have the time/budget to get really interactive.
2.46 All agreed visitors should be able to speak ideas and responses into
a tape-recorder.
2.47 Clair and Andrew expressed excitement about a movable exhibition
or one that extends somehow into the street.
2.5 Planning for Real
2.51 Planning Aid for London are committed to helping the group with a
planning for real event although costs will be kept down by the group
providing most of the necessary background material and doing other basic
legwork.
2.52 A rough-and-ready model will be made by RKT. This needs organising.
3.0 Process or "making it happen"
3.1 We discussed confining the contributors to key organisations and individuals
but ended up agreeing that a wider range of contributions is preferable.
3.2 Concern about how manageable exhib contributions will be was put aside
by Tom and Sarah who said that many will come in pre-formatted as photos,
A4 sheets etc.
3.3 It was felt that OS would not be happy for RKT to issue a "exhibition
pack" to potential exhib contributors containing OS extracts though Chris'
idea of a pack is a good one.
3.4 Tom emphasised that he's taking it for granted that the exhibition
won't happen unless large chunks of time are allocated to it eg 8 hour
days.
3.5 We agreed to try and get exhib contributions in in February.
3.6 All agreed designing the exhibition will be made easier when its contents
are known .
3.7 The need to design the exhib was addressed by Andrew who offered to
prepare designs. These would be around the theme of a maze. Whether or
not this approach is the right one seemed to everyone less important than
begining to think about the exhib design.
3.8 Concern about the expense entailed in designing the exhib was raised
though Tom pointed out that a lot can be done with very little.
3.9 Bernie Cauley speaking about his experiences in Dublin resisting comprehensive
inner- city redevelopment suggested the next meeting should be on the
basis that we have to bring something ie an exhib contribution.
3.10 Clair Drew spoke about her commitment to do a website. This could
be an exhib venue. But in the first place will provide info for RKT. Members
will need to keep Clair updated with up-to-date info.
4.0 Further Meetings
4.1 All agreed that meetings are perhaps less important than exhibition
contributions. Everyone should be actively seeking contributions not more
members at meetings.
5.0 Next Meeting
5.1 To be arranged but probably a morale-booster in a local pub hospitality
room. circulation of minutes RKT membership
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Meeting
6 - 30th November 2000
1.0 General
1.1 Tom Young began by saying that the meeting reflected the clear focus
of the group on making the ReNew Kentish Town Exhibition happen. A meeting
agenda was distributed.
1.2 The two group expenditures since last meeting were ?300.00 Steve Roper
Work towards securing an exhibition venue ?30.00 LBC Libraries Hire of
KT Library on 19th October 2000 The balance of the account is therefore
?4470.
1.3 Richard Terry asked whether the money from Camden had been banked
yet. Tom said no and will chase Camden Arts.
2.0 Content Group Report
2.1 Peter Wickenden said he had been working on the ward structure of
KT and collating population statistics. On a bureaucratic basis Dartmouth
Park is outside KT though clearly understood by most people (including
RKT members) as part of it.
2.2 John Jopling spoke about the artificiality of the ward structure and
work by Peter Cadogan on defining the real communities that form London.
2.3 Peter W spoke about his work on Camden's UDP (Unitary Development
Plan) which seems to demonstrate that the Council treats KT as a "backwater".
He also referred to the part of the ReNew Kentish Town Exhibition dealing
with the future of the area and said that perhaps it was the most difficult
to provide a framework for. Peter thought that the railway lands might
be a natural focus for those considering the future of KT.
2.4 Chris Philips who presented some fascinating old maps of the area
opined that what is striking about KT is how much of the original 18th
and 19th structure is still recognizable.
2.5 Richard T presented a range of up-to-date maps and aerial photos.
He discussed costs and the group's need to decide what level of OS information
it is prepared to pay for.
2.6 After some discussion about the ruinous expense of OS maps, in particular
at the normal 1:1250 scale, two key points emerged. First, Gill Scott
noted that the OS charge a reduced fee for non-commercial uses. Second,
Chris Philips thought that it's quite likely that members have the necessary
1:1250 scale maps already.
2.7 It was felt that OS would not be happy for RKT to issue a "exhibition
pack" to potential exhib contributors containing OS extracts though Chris'
idea of a pack is a good one.
2.8 Richard T demonstrated the different look of maps of different scales.
He also showed the boundaries of the postal district NW5 overlaid on the
ward boundaries.
2.9 Richard T discussed costs of aerial photos. An idea is to link an
aerial photo with a map.
2.10 Sarah Eley said that the police have very good aerial photos of areas.
They can be persuaded to let community groups use them.
2.11 Sally Thompson spoke about the proposal to have an OS map where visitors
to the exhibition are able to mark where they live or work in KT. 2.12
Sally raised the idea that there might be a way in which exhibition visitors
could pick out their favourite idea in the exhibition by putting it into
a special display where it could stay until another visitor chose to replace
it. 2.13 Sally noted that the "content group" had had a meeting with Michael
Parkes from Planning Aid for London. Parkes is interested in RKT's work
and willing to work at reduced rates to put on a planning for real event
during the period of the exhibition. Sally stressed that most of the work
could be done by RKT members without incurring a cost.
2.14 It was noted that the exhibition is a kind of planning for real event
in its own right.
2.15 The issue of cost arising from Planning Aid for London's possible
involvement and the cost of OS maps led Sally, amongst others, to point
out the need for an updated budget.
3.0 Publicity
Group Report
3.1 Phil Thornton spoke about the work being done on various publicity
sheets and the further publicity option which might be open to RKT. The
central publicity document at this stage is a fold-up leaflet which has
already been widely distributed in shops along KT Rd. These leaflets have
gone quickly. The leaflet can be seen as moderately successful.
3.2 Phil noted the drop-in at KT Library on 4/11/00 when many people found
out about RKT.
3.3 Phil set out publicity options aside from the main leaflet which seem
to be open to RKT: 1 features and letters in local press 2 fly-posting
3 website
3.4 Fly-posting was discounted as provocative and illegal, and probably
counter to RKT's own goal of improving the environment.
3.5 Conversation focussed on the quality of the leaflet and distribution.
3.6 Maureen O'Brien made very helpful criticisms of the impression left
by the leaflet. Maureen noted that she had the impression that something
was already going to happen in KT which she now understood was not the
case. Paul Gannon noted that RKT does exist to deal with the likelihood
of "something going to happen.
3.7 Maureen thought the "your interest" section of the current leaflet
is too weak. A much clearer request for ideas for the exhibition is needed.
3.8 Gill Scott noted that the exhibition was for a wider audience than
RKT, though Sally noted in response that the exhibition was at least partly
for the sake of RKT members.
3.9 Gill made a strong case for the RKT leaflet being far more focussed
on its goal - which Gill herself was only now beginning to appreciate
- namely, getting KT people to contribute to the exhibition. This criticism
of RKT's publicity to date was particularly helpful because it helped
everyone to focus on the need to avoid being misleading.
3.10 Phil said that he and Eve are in any case planning a more refined
version of the leaflet.
3.11 Tom noted one bit of work that RKT members need to do which is following-up
commitments to produce work for the exhibition. This will entail a lot
of phoning around.
3.12 Phil turned to the issue of leaflet distribution. He said that this
ought to be done before Christmas. Co-ordination is needed to avoid leafleting
the same place twice.
3.13 Eve Barker spoke about her graphic work on the leaflet. Draft copies
of her work were passed round. Eve said she was planning to organise the
graphic appearance of all RKT's documents by establishing an RKT font
structure.
3.14 Copies of Eve's and Sally's work on a mdf exhibition stand were passed
round. Further discussion of Eve's work is needed but will take place
at a dedicated exhibition meeting.
3.15 Tom noted that Kall Kwik (Tally Barash, Kall Kwik, 191 Kentish Town
Road, LONDON, NW5 2JU, tel no: 7485-9818) will do two-sided A4 leaflet
prints at ?60/1000 (6p/sht). RKT members and anyone else willing to help
distribute will be able to pick up leaflets from Kall Kwik free-of-charge.
3.16 Rosemary Lewin noted that LBC Libraries offer a kind of distribution
service amongst their own libraries. The London Volontary Resource apparently
also offers help with leafletting but this needs to be clarified. 3.17
Michael Wippell said he would be willing to help with distribution. 3.18
Sue Prickett said that RKT should try get help from the schools with distribution.
3.19 The topic of the exhibition title was raised briefly. Most agreed
that the exhibition should simply be called The ReNew Kentish Town Exhibition,
though Paul said that now the matter had been raised ideas should be sought
from members and the matter settled at another meeting.
4.0 Venue
Report
4.1 Steve Roper reported on his work towards securing a venue for the
exhibition.
4.2 Steve has had one meeting with a key local estate agent, Salter Rex.
The agent, Alan Harvey, has agreed to help Steve by providing information
about shops which become vacant or are about to be taken over.
4.3 Steve said that getting a venue will become easier when the exhibition
is around two or three months off ie after Christmas. This period of time
is about the same as that needed to get planning applications for change-of-use
which many new shops need.
4.4 Steve said rates are a big issue for a group like RKT trying to keep
costs down. Discussion around this theme ensued with these points being
made:
1 owners of empty shops have to pay 30% rates anyway
2 LBC has a record of turning a blind eye to outstanding rates where an
arts event is involved though this is not a rule and rates officers are
difficult people to deal with.
3 LBC has a poor record of rates collection.
4 ?1000 is the likely size of a rate bill.
5 If we can demonstrate we are a charity then our rates bill will be only
%20.
6 John said the organisation he represents - Sustainable London Trust
- is a charity and could sign for the exhibition venue.
7 Steve said if the liability is reduced to %20 owners might pay it.
4.5 The exhibition period was discussed. Steve's notion that it should
include two weekends with a 5 day period in the middle was agreed. The
dates are: March 31st 2001->April 8th 2001. A key associated event such
as the planning for real investigated by Sally and her group will take
place during this period.
4.6 Steve noted that installation and take-down periods are needed either
side of the exhibition run which means RKT will need possession of a venue
for around 3 weeks hence the approximate ?1000 potential rates liability.
4.7 Steve said he will be committing more time to his RKT work in the
next few weeks as his work on another exhibition comes to an end.
4.8 Steve continues to report to the exhibition subgroup consisting of
Richard B and Tom.
5.0 Managing
it All
5.1 There was discussion about the need for more organisation of the group.
The need for an updated budget and programme was agreed.
5.2 John said that a steering group is needed if one did not already exist
and said the group needed more organisation. He thought the character
of the meeting was slightly confusing, veering between that of a plenary
meeting and steering group meeting.
5.3 Tom explained that there had been a steering group which had disappeared
over the summer whilst the work on the Awards for All grant application
was done. There are also subgroups working on publicity, exhibition content
and the venue. There had been a funding subgroup but it had successfully
completed its work.
5.4 The steering group would have reps from subgroups. Tom said it could
be formed immediately because of the lack of time. The following agreed
to be included Tom Young Sarah Eley Sally Thompson Phil Thornton Steve
Roper It was clearly stated that the committee is open to others who might
want to join it.
5.5 John had the idea that the four exhibition themes could be represented
by four RKT members. This could greatly assist organisation and was broadly
agreed by everyone.
5.6 Sally and Richard T noted that their group - the "content group" -
is already organised along these lines in anycase. When this group's work
is complete, it might be possible for its members to take on the role
outlined by John.
5.7 Tom spoke about the need to get help with the post. The group membership
stands at around 110 and is very likely to increase. The post has become
a major chore. Help is now needed.
5.8 Richard Russell noted that it might be possible drop off post work
at the library for helpers to pick up.
5.9 Pam Walker said that email has got to be one part of the answer.
5.10 Discussion turned to managing the lead-up to the exhibition and need
to chase contributors for their contributions. Gill asked how this was
being done. Tom said he is maintaining a database of contributors and
contributions which is organised around key dates to ensure potential
contributors are reminded at appropriate times of their commitment.
5.11 A general discussion developed about whether RKT should get the exhibiton
contributions from contributors sooner rather than later, so, as Sue and
Gill pointed out, the group could familiarise itself with the extremely
various contributions which are likely to materialise. The conscensus
was that sooner is better. All agreed that contributions should be obtained
at the start of February leaving people time to get over Christmas and
the misery of January.
5.12 Tom noted that in his conversations so far with potential contributors
the fact that the exhibition date is still quite far off has been an encouragement.
5.13 Tom noted that he was already getting quite a few commitments to
produce exhibition contributions. One example: Paul gave a clear description
to the group of his own contribution about the Leighton Rd/Brecknock traffic
management schemes.
5.14 Tom agreed to speak as soon as possible to Rosie Rice about contacting
schools.
6.0 Further
Meetings
6.1 All agreed that the ensuing group meetings should focus on key topics.
The next two meetings will focus on 1 the exhibition itself: 14/12/00
2 further fundraising with the possibility of inviting the commercial
sector along in the form of KTBA and Murphys: 11/1/01(?)
7.0 Next
Meeting
7.1 The next meeting will be on December 14th, at 7-9pm, at Kentish Town
Library.
7.2 A steering group meeting will also be arranged. circulation of minutes
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Meeting 5 - 19th
October 2000
1.0 Exhibition
Timing
1.1 Tom Y explained that the meeting had been called to discuss how we
should organise ourselves in light of the fact that ReNew Kentish Town
has won ?4,800 from the "Awards for All" lottery fund and ?1,000 from
LBC Arts & Tourism dept. Tom provided copies of the letter confirming
the ?4,800 award from "Awards for All".
1.2 LBC Arts and Tourism funding must be spent on some artistically worthwhile
work related to the exhibition agenda.
1.3 It appears from the "Awards for All" letter that the money needs to
be spent by the end of April, 2001. Everyone saw that in fact there is
not much time before we need to get the exhibition up. Steve said if we
factor the Christmas period, there is very little time indeed. 1
.4 We briefly considered trying to delay the exhib, but all agreed with
Sally in the end that this would really be demoralising procrastination.
It would be best to face the challenge head-on and get the exhib up by
the start of April.
1.5 Tom briefly mentioned the work which had been started by various subgroups
back in February. This work needs to be revisited. Key work areas still
largely untouched are venue and outreach to the people of KT who we intend
to provide the exhib content.
1.6 The problems of reaching people in KT led some in the group to say
that we should consider not casting our net too wide. This thought was
rejected in the end as being too negative and contrary to the goals of
the group. We must try and engage as many people as possible in KT with
the idea of the exhibition and contributing to it.
1.7 Steve came up with the idea of a public drop-in as a way of reaching
as many people as possible quickly. We agreed to try out the drop-in idea
as soon as possible.
1.8 The need to get in touch with local groups was mentioned once again.
This outreach work will be done by the publicity group. Sally said contacting
schools and local school children will be a good way to reach out to local
parents. Rosie backed this up.
2.0 Appointment
of Steve Roper
2.1 Tom Y proposed that Steve Roper work professionally on behalf of RKT
for a fee of ?1200. This will cover the cost of 10 full days work. Tom
said that Steve's proposed work would focus on securing options on venues
ie internal (main venue, debate forum) and external (eg bus-displays,
shop-windows).
2.2 Steve provided a brief written summary of his work programme to be
agreed with the group (enclosed herewith). He explained the importance
of bridging the gap with the public by combining internal and external
venues. 2.3 Richard T was concerned that the Steve's appointment might
not be an appropriate expenditure in view of others free work.
2.4 Tom Y argued for it saying it was critical to the forward momentum
of the group's work that we secure a suitable venue quickly. Doing so
will help focus our work. Sally agreed saying she regarded Steve's fee
as more than reasonable. The group generally agreed Steve's appointment
to secure premises for the exhibition and work on the exhibition.
2.5 A steering group to which Steve will report will consist of Richard
B and Tom Y. Others are welcome to join from the RKT membership.
3.0 Exhibition
3.1 All present agreed to contribute work of their own to the exhibition.
Each person present gave a brief outline of their exhibit.
3.2 There was discussion about the "point of the exhibition" which was
raised obliquely by Sarah's query about what the exhib is for. Peter Cumings
spoke at length about the frustrations he had encountered trying to make
the council deal more effectively with the management of the urban environment
for which they are responsible. He argued strongly that we should not
be doing the Council's work. minutes continued_
3.3 John Jopling argued that RKT's work is precisely right for the current
politics of the environment. Our approach is therefore worth pursuing
not withstanding Peter's experiences.
3.4 It was suggested that Peter C turn his experiences into a history
that can be added to the exhibition.
3.5 Rosie Rice spoke about the work at KT CoE school. This is very high
quality and would look great in the exhib. She also mentioned local campaigns
from the 70s which had successfully scuppered a policy of dividing the
area into virtual no-thru zones. Documentation still exists which would
form an interesting exhibit. Rosie also mentioned other people in the
area with interesting material including Corin Hughes-Stanton and Oliver
Cox, a friend with interesting photos of the area.
3.6 There was discussion about making model. Tom Y suggested a plaster
of Paris model which Chris thought would be far too heavy. The practicalities
of producing the model obviously need much more work to resolve.
3.7 Richard T made it very clear that the framework information will be
well integrated with the exhib and will not stand apart from the material
supplied by people and organisation in KT. It will be informative not
didactic.
4.0 Work
to be done
4.1 More help is needed from RKT members. Below is a summary of the current
working parties.
4.2 Helpers are needed particularly to issue publicity material to KT
groups and organisations and to do leafletting.
VENUE venue steering group T.Young, R.Bourn
DOCUMENTATION publicity material P.Thornton, E.Barker, D.Benson media
strategy P.Gannon website C.Drew(?)
OUTREACH post T.Young, ?? leafletting ?? press P.Thornton, ?? exhib items
follow-up ?? event organisation S.Thompson, ?? info managemt T.Young
NEW FUND-RAISING local biz approaches V.Beardshaw(?), ?? EXHIBITION framework
info R.Terry, P.Wickenden, S.Thompson, C.Philips
GENERAL HELP B.Johnson, P.Walker
CENTRAL ORGANISATION T.Young, ??
5.0 Next
Meeting 5.1 Thursday, 30th November, 7-9pm, KT Library, Childrens Section
circulation of minutes RKT membership
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Meeting
4 - 3rd February 2000
1.0 Mission
Statement
1.1 RB thought there should be more the emphasis on what is wrong in the
area. RB was also concerned that there was scant mention of the people
of KT in the material produced by the steering committee. TY said that
RKT is focussing through the planned KT exhibition on getting the thoughts,
ideas & experiences of KT people into public.
2.0 Exhibition Plan
2.1 All agreed that our group should aspire to making a real and lasting
contribution to thinking about KT's future. We should therefore aim to
produce a document after the planning Kentish Town exhibition which records
and gives clear account of our work.
2.2 RT spoke about the need for some professional exhib content. CP spoke
about an open structure to the exhibition sustained by a level of professionalism
eg maps, analysis_
2.3 SR said the exhib should be open with the group having the final say
about content.
2.4 MW said the exhib must be "honest" which means it will reflect diversity
of opinion.
2.5 TY said we are presenting the exhib to the people of KT and so a full
representation of views is important, not least to express the energy
and feeling people have for their area.
2.6 The example of Kentish Town Business Association's abiding interest
in parking was mentioned as perhaps antagonistic to the agenda of the
Camden Cycling Campaign. Both group's aspirations ought to figure in the
KT exhib.
2.7 CP talked about the possibility of taking people to bits of KT that
they hadn't visited before: places where an unusual view of the area could
be shown to people. The notion of KT tours arose as a result
2.8 EB said there are a lot of surprises in KT. The exhib should publicize
these interesting, unknown aspects of the place. PW suggested a school
discovery journey
2.9 ST suggested exhib could also present ideas presented in quite different
contexts originally, for examples ideas from the Car-Free London exhib.
All agreed however that RKT is not doing an exhib led by designers.
2.10 SR said the exhib quality is our job: how material is presented is
critical.
2.11 There was broad conscensus that the exhib should be mobile. CD drew
attention to the libraries as a venue. PW said perhaps the exhib should
be on QC. All agreed it could move there. It could be advertised in shops
along whatever street it is in.
2.12 SR said there we need an exhib steering group that reports to main
group
3.0 Making
Contact with People/Groups in KT
3.1 The role of our group should be made clear when we make our first
contacts with individuals and groups who might contribute to the exhib
3.2 SR thought in our contacts with groups and individuals in the area
we should stress that existing or past work relating to the area would
go well in the exhib; in this connection TY mentioned Camden Cycling Campaign,
KTBA and the work of Corin Hughes-Stanton.
3.3 There was concern about the phrase "urban future" used in the exhibition
plan. PG noted that KT can only have an urban future - nothing else is
conceivable. CD and SL and others said we should use less pompous phrasing
to avoid putting people off.
3.4 SR thought we should not worry about "being middle-class". Nor worry
too much about the group's capacity to reach out to everyone. In the end,
he argued, the main pre- requesite for change in KT is "showing up" (as
Woody Allen said), and that is what our group and many other interested
and motivated people area do.
3.5 ST said that the way the steering committee has broken down the subject
matter of the exhib will help the people we speak to "get a handle" on
what the exhibition is. The exhib deals with the past, possible futures
for KT, good practice demonstrated in other places and specific shortcomings
and problems found in KT's environment. page 2 - minutes continued
3.6 All agreed that when RKT invites people and groups to contribute to
the exhibition, it should be very clear that we are not engaged in a process
of "consultation". All agreed that RKT does not have a remit to do consultation.
Our role is to put on a good exhib. PG spoke about his distrust of the
whole consultation business-how it is used to lever pre-determined policy
by the council
3.7 We discussed making a questionaire part of initial contacts with people
and groups in the area. We felt this might put people off and appear like
"consultation" which all agreed is not RKT's job. PW said any questionaire
should be part of the public exhib. All agreed there is a need to produce
some documentation to give to people and groups when inviting contributions
to the exhib.
4 Next
Steps
4.1 Publicity material for local people and groups, rather than funding
bodies, is necessary. This could be as engaging and effective as the excellent
publicity for KT Family Album - very open and friendly. CD called for
things to be more basic and down-to-earth. SR said the exhib is for residents,
workers, businesses. Each needs to be approached in a particular way.
PW said publicity material ought to be picture based. SR said it should
include pictures, text and exhib headings, and a map
4.2 We must contact funders asap.
4.3 All accepted Roper's proposal to have the exhib in a shop, at first
at least. SR said to get hold of a vacant shop, RKT will have to be opportunistic.
TY will contact local estate agents about upcoming vacant properties.
4.4 SR said RKT's exhib will attract business to the High Street. The
reasons for not doing an outdoor exhib were rehearsed - cost being the
primary one.
4.5 All agreed the shop should be big enough to allow a range of activities.
SR repeated the point made in the exhib plan about the exhib being an
opportunity for interactivity. SR noted that tackling businesses for sponsorship
requires delicacy. Equally, there is no question of points of view being
promoted because of sponsorship.
4.6 Breakdown of areas of work -
4.7 All agreed that the group should avoid become overly bureaucratic
while working towards setting the exhib up. SR argued that if duties are
allocated too rigidly others will not contribute. We ought to aim to network
and provide each other with support. TY will reissue member addresses
and emails. TY will also continue to run the RKT office.
5 Nexting
Meeting
5.1 To be arranged circulation all in group
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Meeting
3 - 28th October 1999
1.0 Group
Organisation
1.1 The meeting was called to share out responsibilities ie to enable
the appointment of officers such as treasurer, chair, secretary and exhibition
co-ordinator. In the event, all agreed with Steve that such appointments
might be counter-productive this early on.
1.2 All agreed with Steve's proposal that the group appoint a "steering
committee" to report back to the main group in around a month. The following
have been appointed to steering committee by the group at the last meeting:
Virginia Beardshaw Richard Bourn Sarah Eley Paul Gannon Sandra Lovell
Steve Roper Ceri Smith Philip Thornton Tom Young (9 total)
1.3 The committee will think about the following issues consultation policy/consultation
plan a mission statement funding: who we should seek it from and what
are the disbenefits of commitments to funding bodies exhibition timetable
exhibition schedule of tasks research local groups/identify key groups
openness of exhib other
1.4 All agreed that the committee should meet twice and then report back
to the main group. Sally said the committee's work will be quite onerous.
John agreed, saying in his experience most of the work is done by a small
section of the group but he was hopeful in this case that that will not
happen.
1.5 All felt that we should be careful about making contacts with the
Council and avoid some of the bureaucratic restrictions which we might
suffer if funded/supported by bodies such as CILNTEC or the Council. Groundwork
Camden, on the other hand, may well be able to provide support with very
limited conditions. Camden's Green Values funding was mentioned. The committee
will follow up these leads.
2 Group
Name
2.1 The groups name was changed as a result of two votes. The first one
selected two alternatives from a list of five. A second vote followed
discussion of the first selection which was Renew Kentish Town and Kentish
Town Future.
2.2 Ceri said that Renew Kentish Town contains a verb denoting action.
Sandra said it has a historical resonance by suggesting a better past.
Bob argued that the groups name will end up being Kentish Town Partnership
if it is successful. He thought that while we should please ourselves,
our name was not perhaps that important.
2.3 The second vote was in favour of Renew Kentish Town.
2.4 Andy and Tom(Y) are interested in working together on the groups stationery.
3 Publicity
& Press
3.1 All agreed it is essential to notify the public of what we're doing
well in advance.
3.2 Peter was concerned that West Kentish Town might get left out.
3.3 The issue of the specific area covered by Kentish Town was discussed.
One point of view was that the group is only concerned with people who
are quite clear about KT and their allegiance to it.
3.4 There was some agreement that publicity via press could be an effective
way to ensure the other side of Kentish Town - West Kentish Town - is
kept informed. On a show of hands, it was in any case quite clear that
the group contains several West Kentish Towners already.
3.5 Everyone agreed on the need to manage publicity. Pamela recalled how
the CNJ effectively destroyed a very good group in Camden.
3.6 Michael said we need to have the support of the CNJ's editor. He noted
the H&H is a good paper but not free and not popular with everyone.
3.7 Shops are an obvious place to dispense leaflets or material about
the goals of the exhibition and the fact that we are looking for contributions.
Michael said there should be boxes in shops where people can post their
thoughts etc.
3.8 Bob said interactive web sites with forms for example are good way
to get peoples opinions. Using them can be a part of classroom activity.
Eight new internet-linked computers to be installed at the library soon.
3.9 Richard (T) said web sites will attract a middle-class audience.
4 Exhibition
Content
4.1 Richard(B) said what's wrong with KT - its very visible, self-evident
problems - will be one way into the exhibition for the public. His list
of problems was supplemented by one read out from the H&H (1/10/99).
4.2 Tom(Y) said the exhib will be a public demonstration of how all of
us can take a more than passing interest in the future of our part of
London. 4.3 John said the exhib needs a place where visitors can go in
and make an active contribution.
4.4 Chris said the exhibition should make certain key points clear. One
might be population decline and how it threatens the local provision of
services eg shops.
4.5 All agreed that the nature of the local economy is a key aspect of
the exhib.
4.6 Chris said that local history groups have a good deal to contribute
to the exhib.
4.7 Richard(T) thought another key point will be the developability of
KT. Aerial photos will be helpful in this regard.
4.8 Other key points will be good local characteristics such as diverse
shopping that are worth preserving.
4.9 A great variety of visions will be apparent from the exhib.
4.10 Peter and Ceri emphasised the issue of KT's division by the railway
lands, of KT as a place broken up by a very large closed-off and inaccessible
area in the middle.
4.11 Tom(A) stressed the need to think about pedestrian and cycle accessibility.
Transport generally is also very important. Initiatives such as reopening
South KT tube station were mentioned.
5 Exhibition
Presentation
5.1 Michael said that it is inevitable and perhaps desirable that the
exhibition is bitty; its in the nature of what we're doing.
5.2 Pamela said we can still be professional about presentation.
5.3 Alice and Bob described how the exhib might transfer to public places
in the area: pubs, libraries, shops
5.4 All agreed there will be plenty of scope to generate literature from
the exhibition. This can widely disseminated.
6 Exhibition
Opening as Public Event
6.1 Paul thought there said the proposed location of the main exhibition
- under the canopy on the corner of Leighton Rd and KT Rd - may not provide
us with enough space. He asked the group to think about the possibility
of closing off KT Rd to traffic for one day as a solution.
6.2 Philip said road closures would have to be legal: we must avoid being
hijacked by single-issue anti-road groups
6.3 Andy suggested that we could work with a theatre group which would
attempt to characterise some of the problems of the area through a drama
enacted on the street.
6.4 Michael said something similar used to happen in the 20s & 30s when
there used to be "Living Newspapers" - Unity Theatre actors who acted
out the news.
6.5 John described how an unloved piece of open ground in Islington was
brought to public attention by someone who pretended to be a developer
keen to develop it. His ruse brought about a collossal response from people.
6.6 Tom(Y) said we could have a funeral procession for KT down the high
street. Michael said it should finish with a "resurrection".
7 Participation
7.1 Tom(A) said the group must be open to more than middle-class people.
Sandra said we must work with as wide a group of people as possible: we
must draw people in.
7.2 Chris noted that if we fail to do engage broadly, there will be "hell
to pay" from people and groups who feel left out and neglected.
7.3 All agreed that we should clarify our mission statement and our plan
of action before getting in touch with other groups such Kentish Town
Business Assoc.
7.4 Tom(Y) it's important that we all give to the exhib not just our "professional"
skills but commit ourselves by putting forward ideas, drawings, memoires,
thoughts about the area. He recalled one of the group's tenets - namely
that the talents of the group as it stands are most probably in excess
of what's available at Camden's Forward Planning and Regeneration offices
7.5 Sally said we could do a planning for real event
7.6 There was a general discussion about involving young people. Richard(T)
said that it will be easy to contact schools because members have children.
Schools will also be a good way to get in touch with parents. 7.7 Tom(Y)
said Torriano Junior School is doing a project about KT Rd's traffic problems.
7.8 Tom(A) thought that children's experiences of walking around the area
would be an interesting part of the groups thinking about transport.
7.9 Sarah and Steve said that the group could work with architecture and
urban design students at nearby colleges eg The PoW School of Architecture,
University of North London, AA and LSE (which has an urban design course).
Sarah said the group could filter the ideas coming out of school projects
focussed on KT.
7.10 Richard(R) said that it might be better to involve students of sustainable
development. The feeling was their outlook would be more relevant and
less perscriptive.
7.11 There was a feeling that the contribution of children has limits
ie the future of KT is an adult issue. However, given one of KT's problems
is neglect - a failure to take the place seriously - children do have
the power through their image-making to remind us of what it is to engage
with a place fully.
8 Consultation
8.1 Tom(Y) said participation in the exhib is a form of consultation.
Contributing to and visiting the exhib are forms of consultation/participation.
Consultation is a kind of participation: participation is not only about
filling out forms (important as that is).
8.2 Andy said the group does need a consultation policy - a thought-through
approach to the need to consult at every stage.
8.3 Nick suggested that the group should try to compile a questionaire
about Kentish Town to be distributed with publicity leaflets for the exhib.
Nick said he worked professionally on managing town centres and balancing
their shopping amenity.
9 Nexting
Meeting 9.1 The Steering Committee will suggest times as part of their
work. circulation all in group
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Meeting
2 - 16th September 1999
1.0 NEXT STEPS 1.1 All agreed that we should concentrate on a public event.
1.2 All agreed that we should mount an exhibition showing ideas for the
future of Kentish Town.
1.3 All agreed the exhibition be located around/under the canopy on the
corner of Kentish Town Rd and Leighton Rd ie an outdoor exhibition.
1.4 Concerns were expressed about Camden's willingness to allow such an
exhibition.
1.5 There was discussion about the format of the exhibition, and how it
might be spread around Kentish Town's shops, libraries and schools after
it is removed from the canopy area.
1.6 All agreed the exhibition should be aspirational.
1.7 Everyone agreed that the exhibition should draw on the thinking of
many more people than are in our group. Other groups in the area should
be contacted. Individuals, whether or not affiliated to groups, should
be alerted to the proposed exhibition through publicity in shops on KT
Rd. Nori said the Kentish Town shopkeepers association will be a very
important partner organisation (see last minutes). Paul mentioned his
links with Camden Cycling Campaign.
1.8 Jim said there must be many other groups who have done what we're
doing around the country. The Kings Cross Railway Lands Group were mentioned
in this connection: Tom said that he is in contact with them.
2.0 ORGANISATION
2.1 Alice said careful organisation is needed to mount a successful exhibition.
2.2 The group asked Tom to provide a list of tasks for the group to discuss.
2.3 Alice noted that group must now appoint "officers" eg secretary/treasurer.
2.4 Sandra said a sensible lead-in time for the exhibition is essential.
Jim said that the start of the Spring next year will be good time to have
it.
2.5 Tom thought the group - it is over 40 strong at the moment - is big
enough to generate financial resources for the exhibition.
2.6 Jim said we should expect the group to get much larger eventually.
2.7 The full membership will be issued to everyone in the group.
3.0 AFTER
THE EXHIBITION
3.1 Jim wondered what follows the exhibition. He said that there is a
big difference between the detailed, professional work needed to complete
a Kentish Town plan and what we do now.
3.2 The fact that Camden have done nothing so far and that our group is
probably more talented than Camden's Forward Planning Dept was mentioned
in response to Jim.
3.3 Alice said she would be very loath to hand over "the project" to Camden.
3.4 Judy said Kentish Town's potential development warrants a national
architectural competition. minutes of meeting continued_
3.5 Philip said a good relationship with Camden is needed in the long
term. He spoke about the work at Mile End which has grown up organically
through community involvement. He stressed the importance of involving
organisations further up the governmental hierarchy than the local authority.
3.6 Nori noted that the Kings Cross Railway Lands Group have failed to
get Camden to incorporate the group's housing objectives in the Borough
Plan ( the Unitary Development Plan or UDP: copies are available in Camden
libraries) despite intense lobbying.
3.7 In resisting Kings Cross Railway Lands Group, Camden gives itself
freedom. Likewise, Council is not specific about Kentish Town's future
quite possibly because it is a huge development opportunity.
3.8 Nori asked what we do if Camden reveals area redevelopment plans before
we are "ready".
3.9 Paul said that what interests Camden most about Kentish Town now is
probably the new bus-route on Kentish Town Road. He added that Camden's
likely failure to implement pedestrianisation in Camden Town may mean
that it is looking for "successes" elsewhere. Paul suggested it may be
a good time to get Camden to consult with local people about their hopes
for Kentish Town: Camden has a funny way of finding money when it wants
it!
4.0
GROUP NAME: SHORTLIST OF ALTERNATIVES
4.1 Michael raised concerns about the group's provisional name ie KTDF.
He thought it sounded too much like a get-together of designers, and called
for new ideas about names.
4.2 Everyone agreed with Michael and decided to shortlist some new names
for the group there and then with the intention of settling the matter
as fast as possible while insuring that the rest of group has a say through
voting on the shortlisted alternatives.
4.3 Andrew said he was interested in designing the group logo.
4.3 Please could you indicate which name from the shortlist you like most.
1) ReNew Kentish Town 2) Inter-aKT! 3) Act for a New Kentish Town 4) Kentish
Town Future 5) Kentish Town 2005
circulation all KTDF members
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Meeting
1 - 24th June 1999
1.0 INTRODUCTION
1.1 Tom spoke about the need for a well thought out area plan. Our group
can develop a community approved area plan in advance of the large-scale
developers making their move into the area.
1.2 Tom suggested we begin by thinking as widely and openly as possible
about KT's future.
1.3 Richard noted that the main "sites" in KT are amongst the largest
in London.
2.0
CONTACTS WITH OTHER GROUPS
2.1 Nori suggested we talk to other local groups. All agreed to this proposal.
2.2 Nori suggest talking to West Hampstead groups dealing with Railtrack's
proposals. Mark commented that they are reacting to proposals, whereas
our group will be making proposals.
2.4 The Council are not top of a list of possible contacts. John noted
Camden's unresponsiveness in the past. Michael said working with local
Councillors early on might help, on the other hand.
2.5 Tom said he has good links with Kentish Town Business Association
(KTBA) via Cllr Roberts' KT Rd working party which is concerned with minor
improvements on KT Rd.
2.6 Camden's proposed CPZ (controlled parking zone) in KT has mobilised
local people who may well be interested in our groups' work.
3.0 PUBLIC
PROFILE
3.0 Tom suggested our group's vitality will be sustained by doing enjoyable,
public things such as walkabouts, planning-for-real events and exhibitions.
3.1 Support from the local press will help our public profile.
3.2 A web-site to give info about our work will be another way of getting
across to the public.
7.2 A model of the area positioned in KT library may stimulate public
reactions and involvement. Lewis said a lot of the area is hidden from
view. A model could help people think about KT.
3.4 Lesley said she knows about various youth schemes which could be linked
to our group.
4.0 GROUP
ADMIN
4.1 Chris suggested sharing print and post costs
4.2 John suggested meetings are managed by "facilitators".
4.3 All agreed that the group should not be "led" by any one person.
4.4 All agreed the group is called Kentish Town Design Forum (KTDF).
5.0 LOCAL
HISTORY
7.2 Tom said 125 years ago the KT railway lands were meadows, then came
the railways and the big rail depot, then, with the decline of railways,
the current l ight industrial usage and zoning.
7.3 Chris said KT had a much larger population 100 years ago which supported
the high street.
5.3 Lewis noted KT Rd used to have 4 or 5 cinemas.
6.0
CURRENT CAMDEN POLICY
6.1 LBC's plans new B1/B8 on the Murphy site. Tom said this does not deal
with the site's real potential.
7.2 Nori/Tom said Highgate Rd's designation means new B8/B1 on Murphys
is consistent with UDP.
6.3 Richard thought large scale retail/housing proposals would not get
planning permission in KT.
6.4 Alice noted how small sites along the North London Rail Viaduct are
picked off for housing. More of this is at least a possibility if housing
associations get part of the Murphy site.
6.5 Nori said LBC recognises the need for open space in KT. KTDF does
too.
6.6 Lewis said Murphys should become parkland.
6.7 John said open space, workspace and homes are needed in the form of
"sustainable development".
6.8 Hassan said Camden is reducing on-street parking without improving
foot/cycle accessibility.
7.0 WHAT
NEXT?
7.1 We agreed to put down our own thoughts and ideas about KT. John said
our statements are a good way to find out about each other. Our initial
ideas might form KTDF's first publication.
7.2 Peter said we should think what is the key question that needs to
answered about KT's future.
7.3 We will meet for a walkabout at the KT canopy (jct KT Rd/Leighton
Rd) on 11th July, 1999, at 11.15am.
7.4 Lesley said she may have access to a good vantage point somewhere
close to her flat. This will be a good spot to take photos from during
the walkabout.
7.4 Mark said our group may be buoyed up by central govt support for bottom-
up planning processes.
7.5 Frank said he is going to the Urban Task Force's report launch and
will tell the group about it. circulation all present other KTDF members
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